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Higher gas prices signal higher taxes Tuesday, May 13, 2008
Appleton Post-Crescent -- Consumers forced to dig deeper into their wallets to pay for higher gasoline prices likely will confront another unwelcome reality in December: higher property tax bills. Municipal governments and school districts, much like consumers, face mounting fuel bills to provide police service, garbage collection and student transportation, and chances are they will pass on at least some of those costs to taxpayers. Neenah finance director Michael Easker said the city's Public Works Department budgeted a 12 percent increase in diesel fuel costs this year for its fleet of vehicles. That came on top of an 18 percent increase the year before, but it will not be enough unless fuel prices drop sharply.
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	Tuesday, May 13, 2008 Appleton Post-Crescent -- Consumers forced to dig deeper into their wallets to pay for higher gasoline prices likely will confront another unwelcome reality in December: higher property tax bills. Municipal governments and school districts, much like consumers, face mounting fuel bills to provide police service, garbage collection and student transportation, and chances are they will pass on at least some of those costs to taxpayers. Neenah finance director Michael Easker said the city's Public Works Department budgeted a 12 percent increase in diesel fuel costs this year for its fleet of vehicles. That came on top of an 18 percent increase the year before, but it will not be enough unless fuel prices drop sharply. Visit Appleton Post-Crescent for full article

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OSHAPT Sophomore Author Virginia Posts:161 Points:56,195 Joined:Apr 2008	Message Posted: 5/16/2008 12:15:12 AM	Ignore OSHAPT Report Abuse
	More nonsense.
PathfinderSC Veteran Author South Carolina Posts:398 Points:79,565 Joined:Mar 2008	Message Posted: 5/14/2008 10:22:56 PM	Ignore PathfinderSC Report Abuse
	If you got a good job, Keep the Government needs your money.
ramboTX Veteran Author Dallas Posts:371 Points:72,870 Joined:Aug 2007	Message Posted: 5/14/2008 5:37:37 PM	Ignore ramboTX Report Abuse
	Everyone joins the band wagon.
POLELANE Champion Author Ohio Posts:1,049 Points:100,675 Joined:Mar 2008	Message Posted: 5/14/2008 12:48:10 PM	Ignore POLELANE Report Abuse
	some are on bicycles motor cycles they try to slow us down
PenDoctrJD Champion Author Orange County Posts:2,707 Points:1,241,265 Joined:Aug 2001	Message Posted: 5/14/2008 11:54:19 AM	Ignore PenDoctrJD Report Abuse
	Let the cops slow down
with1399 Rookie Author Albany Posts:2 Points:765 Joined:Nov 2005	Message Posted: 5/14/2008 11:07:00 AM	Ignore with1399 Report Abuse
	stop letting cops drive around so much
EarlyMoose Champion Author Seattle Posts:1,333 Points:589,140 Joined:Dec 2005	Message Posted: 5/14/2008 11:05:28 AM	Ignore EarlyMoose Report Abuse
	Haha, at least somegov is making money.
rjn5851 Champion Author Florida Posts:5,773 Points:1,249,560 Joined:Jun 2004	Message Posted: 5/14/2008 11:04:52 AM	Ignore rjn5851 Report Abuse
	just what we need...............
RML1 All-Star Author Chicago Posts:676 Points:100,265 Joined:May 2007	Message Posted: 5/14/2008 11:04:01 AM	Ignore RML1 Report Abuse
	I wonder how their going to pull this off since the housing market is in the dumps and home owners are demanding a property tax down sizing do to their loss of property values.
Outie Veteran Author New Brunswick Posts:480 Points:400,675 Joined:Oct 2005	Message Posted: 5/14/2008 11:02:20 AM	Ignore Outie Report Abuse
	They are going to milk us to death
blairsgrove Veteran Author Toronto Posts:450 Points:133,630 Joined:May 2003	Message Posted: 5/14/2008 10:54:16 AM	Ignore blairsgrove Report Abuse
	wonderful
boniface4jesus Rookie Author Gary Posts:40 Points:10,275 Joined:Mar 2006	Message Posted: 5/14/2008 10:50:31 AM	Ignore boniface4jesus Report Abuse
	Higher prices for about everything - due to higher gas prices - or so they claim.
Gerund1 All-Star Author Toronto Posts:596 Points:759,295 Joined:Apr 2003	Message Posted: 5/14/2008 10:49:43 AM	Ignore Gerund1 Report Abuse
	Yes I have little doubt that taxes will increase. Even more burden is the fact that it is forcast that the cost of natural gas will be going up about 20% in a couple of months. What more can be cut back on by the over burdened and over charged common person (politically correct here) when one cannot afford gas to get to work, food to put on the table and now , oh yes I am sure heating oil will follow the upwards trend, the ability to heat and cool their homes?
acknot Veteran Author Seattle Posts:271 Points:519,975 Joined:Sep 2003	Message Posted: 5/14/2008 10:45:03 AM	Ignore acknot Report Abuse
	What isn't going up?
notsurprised Rookie Author Portland Posts:94 Points:6,495 Joined:Mar 2008	Message Posted: 5/14/2008 10:44:00 AM	Ignore notsurprised Report Abuse
	One way to help your local govt out is to set up a compost bin in your back yard so they don't have to haul away your leaves and grass clippings if you have them. Just make sure to turn it often so it does not stink and piss off your neighbors!
Sukiebaby Champion Author New York Posts:7,696 Points:1,094,675 Joined:Apr 2005	Message Posted: 5/14/2008 10:43:36 AM	Ignore Sukiebaby Report Abuse
	say it aint so!!
hangupanddrive Sophomore Author Michigan Posts:195 Points:815,765 Joined:Aug 2005	Message Posted: 5/14/2008 10:41:55 AM	Ignore hangupanddrive Report Abuse
	Local government is also asking for additional taxes later this year. With these high energy prices, good luck on that!! Voters are likely to turn down most when ask. Gas taxes are out of our control unlike municipalities.
Don20 All-Star Author Oklahoma City Posts:877 Points:878,360 Joined:Mar 2005	Message Posted: 5/14/2008 10:41:54 AM	Ignore Don20 Report Abuse
	Can you imagen the impact, if everyone failed to pay takes and decided to eat instead.
RPetty Champion Author Maryland Posts:3,884 Points:880,180 Joined:Jul 2004	Message Posted: 5/14/2008 10:40:32 AM	Ignore RPetty Report Abuse
	Figures. EVERYthing Else is going up!
colrhino Veteran Author Atlanta Posts:319 Points:99,020 Joined:Nov 2007	Message Posted: 5/14/2008 10:37:09 AM	Ignore colrhino Report Abuse
	what else can they raise?
esquared All-Star Author Oklahoma City Posts:913 Points:531,775 Joined:Jan 2006	Message Posted: 5/14/2008 10:34:37 AM	Ignore esquared Report Abuse
	When these governmental entities have to go back to the voters for increases, I suspect the voters will be judicious in their considerations of what increases to support, as they did yesterday in OKC, approving a bond issue to purchase the closed GM plant to lease to Tinker AFB, but rejecting the bond to build a new college building.
rockinrog Veteran Author Ontario Posts:403 Points:558,050 Joined:May 2006	Message Posted: 5/14/2008 10:33:13 AM	Ignore rockinrog Report Abuse
	Were going to pay BIG TIME!
jmonchie Rookie Author New Orleans Posts:36 Points:13,010 Joined:Apr 2008	Message Posted: 5/14/2008 10:31:45 AM	Ignore jmonchie Report Abuse
	yep, walk to school, put more police on bikes! Living the dream!
imnotadufus Champion Author Virginia Posts:1,071 Points:37,050 Joined:Apr 2008	Message Posted: 5/14/2008 10:30:16 AM	Ignore imnotadufus Report Abuse
	"They NEED to feel the pinch too instead of passing their pinch on to the already pinched public. " I'm not a big fan of "the pinch" myself, personally.
kingdick Champion Author Minnesota Posts:17,300 Points:1,391,345 Joined:Aug 2004	Message Posted: 5/14/2008 10:27:28 AM	Ignore kingdick Report Abuse
	Walk to school get rid of the FAT.
Japsmith All-Star Author Tacoma Posts:809 Points:155,685 Joined:Sep 2007	Message Posted: 5/14/2008 10:25:39 AM	Ignore Japsmith Report Abuse
	Retailers will suffer the most this coming Christmas when we no longer can afford those gift items.
ladyjj Veteran Author Tennessee Posts:419 Points:26,930 Joined:Apr 2008	Message Posted: 5/14/2008 10:25:28 AM	Ignore ladyjj Report Abuse
	Well I wondered when it was gona trickle down to that. "What goes up keeps going up" is the saying for these days.
The_WB Champion Author Detroit Posts:2,957 Points:349,025 Joined:Apr 2007	Message Posted: 5/14/2008 10:25:06 AM	Ignore The_WB Report Abuse
	Rising gas prices and higher taxes - what a combo.
MacGyver_1701 Champion Author Indiana Posts:4,744 Points:1,046,850 Joined:Feb 2005	Message Posted: 5/14/2008 10:21:29 AM	Ignore MacGyver_1701 Report Abuse
	Personally, I think that Both Crude and distillates being on the same commodities market is the problem. Wall Street and other markets are allowing an upward snowball that will only correct itself to market fundamentals once a commodity crash has occurred. Of course, this will probably mean that hundreds will loose their life savings, but that is better than the millions that are loosing it a gallon at a time.
ariccougar Rookie Author Utah Posts:66 Points:7,495 Joined:Jun 2007	Message Posted: 5/14/2008 10:20:52 AM	Ignore ariccougar Report Abuse
	Our local government just increased taxes already. Too late for us. But maybe not too late for you.
krmack Veteran Author Illinois Posts:419 Points:74,010 Joined:Apr 2008	Message Posted: 5/14/2008 10:18:31 AM	Ignore krmack Report Abuse
	More and higher taxes!!! Good thing I have an economic stimulus check to use for more taxes!
EastsideBill Rookie Author El Paso Posts:50 Points:16,825 Joined:Apr 2008	Message Posted: 5/14/2008 10:16:45 AM	Ignore EastsideBill Report Abuse
	Hmmm, In 1960 a stamp cost four cents, now it is forty two cents; A good car cost 2,500 dollars, now it costs 30,000 dollars; a gallon of gas was about thirty cents, now it is about 3.80. Hmmm. Gasoline has been artificially low in price in the US for years. Now that we all got used to cheap and plentiful gas and trading stamps too, it now hurts to waste it like we did before. The oil companies are anything but angels, but they are not a government social agency, and they are not running an entitlement program. One quick and decent swing in the price of oil downward (because of speculators)would turn those mega profits into mega losses due to the huge amount of cash they have on the line. With a bit of careful planning and sharing, people can cut their own personal consumption substantially, leaving more money in their pockets. Most driving today is unneccessary. There are car pools, the bus, bike and walking paths, telecommuting, and numerous other options. As long as I see folks sitting in the drive thrus at fast food places one block from home, and searching for that front row spot at the Super Mart driving in endless circles wasting gas, then the price is apparently not yet high enough for them. Yes, everything that relies on fuel will go up in cost, but, if gasoline doubles in price, it should have a measurable, but small increase in the price of consumer goods sold in stores as a percentage of total costs. But watch them jack up the price on everything by much more than actual cost increases and use fuel prices as the excuse. The police should start walking the beats again. Cut garbage collection down to every two weeks instead of every week or twice a week. Sell those government cars. Use more teleconferencing and cut the travel budgets 95 percent. Government needs to compensate just like a family has to. The family income does not go up, and absolutely, government spending and taxes should not be allowed to increase. They NEED to feel the pinch too instead of passing their pinch on to the already pinched public. The publuic does not have the money to pay taxes.
KeithRose Sophomore Author Georgia Posts:156 Points:30,685 Joined:Feb 2008	Message Posted: 5/14/2008 10:16:02 AM	Ignore KeithRose Report Abuse
	High gas prices effects everything I say again everything. I am seriously considering buying a small scooter for quick errands and trips to the store. At 14 MPG my SUV is sucking me dry. You can now buy a scooter for under 1500 that will go 85 and get 100mpg. Now thats gas mileage
Toddlp Rookie Author Orange County Posts:10 Points:42,895 Joined:Apr 2008	Message Posted: 5/14/2008 10:15:34 AM	Ignore Toddlp Report Abuse
	Just bought a bicycle!!
normcrocker Veteran Author Tennessee Posts:462 Points:511,980 Joined:Sep 2006	Message Posted: 5/14/2008 10:15:30 AM	Ignore normcrocker Report Abuse
	This should come as no surprise. Look at the number of state and local government employees who are driving government cars. It isn't just school buses!
NeilPage Champion Author Baltimore Posts:1,173 Points:307,630 Joined:Nov 2005	Message Posted: 5/14/2008 10:14:55 AM	Ignore NeilPage Report Abuse
	We ARE driving less....which means that the government tax on gas is generating less revenue.
AC-302 Champion Author Los Angeles Posts:6,872 Points:1,179,850 Joined:Aug 2004	Message Posted: 5/14/2008 10:14:53 AM	Ignore AC-302 Report Abuse
	Makes sense. As the price goes up, the sales tax on that fuel goes up. Road taxes, however, are ususally fixed on a per gallon basis..
Wolfwings Veteran Author Delaware Posts:300 Points:155,580 Joined:May 2004	Message Posted: 5/14/2008 10:13:17 AM	Ignore Wolfwings Report Abuse
	So, let's see. The gas prices go up therefore the TAXES on gas go up. Then the government need MORE TAXES to pay for gas, so they RAISE TAXES to pay for gas. Have I got it right, now??
eaglev Veteran Author Oklahoma City Posts:361 Points:210,240 Joined:Jul 2005	Message Posted: 5/14/2008 10:12:35 AM	Ignore eaglev Report Abuse
	That's not all if you listen to the democratic party, they want to increase the gas tax to get people to drive less
PapaSmurf5 Sophomore Author Atlanta Posts:186 Points:166,390 Joined:Sep 2005	Message Posted: 5/14/2008 10:12:10 AM	Ignore PapaSmurf5 Report Abuse
	so... thanks Greenpeace, Sierra Club, etc... we currently have 85% of known domestic oil reserves OFF LIMITS due to environmental fanaticism and anti-capitalist nonsense... it will take years to get these reserves "on-line" if we start now... how long do you all want to wait?... until gas is $6 per gallon...?
laddyboy62 All-Star Author Riverside Posts:885 Points:856,810 Joined:Mar 2005	Message Posted: 5/14/2008 10:10:13 AM	Ignore laddyboy62 Report Abuse
	round and round ...when will it end...catch 22 and then some
copperhead8 Champion Author Boston Posts:4,365 Points:1,068,745 Joined:Dec 2004	Message Posted: 5/14/2008 10:08:43 AM	Ignore copperhead8 Report Abuse
	Not what I want to hear.
mike2scooter Champion Author Detroit Posts:5,153 Points:1,014,485 Joined:Aug 2005	Message Posted: 5/14/2008 10:07:53 AM	Ignore mike2scooter Report Abuse
	And our wonderful candidates for president all promise still higher taxes.
southjerseyal Champion Author New Jersey Posts:3,912 Points:637,980 Joined:Mar 2005	Message Posted: 5/14/2008 10:05:36 AM	Ignore southjerseyal Report Abuse
	Thanks to all our fantastic politicians.
lleddirj All-Star Author Michigan Posts:586 Points:515,770 Joined:May 2005	Message Posted: 5/14/2008 10:04:55 AM	Ignore lleddirj Report Abuse
	trickle down as usual
McNasties Champion Author Milwaukee Posts:3,720 Points:719,725 Joined:May 2006	Message Posted: 5/14/2008 10:02:40 AM	Ignore McNasties Report Abuse
	US wouldn't need to collect individual income, sales, property taxes if they would end all corporate entitlements and subsidizes, end all handouts to those truly able to work (including 99% of all handicapped). The taxes the US collects from corporations should pay for everything, from schools to roads to bombs. Afterall, the entire "show" is run for the benefit of the corporations. Welcome to the wage slave planet.
cbpilot Sophomore Author Riverside Posts:145 Points:283,030 Joined:Dec 2006	Message Posted: 5/14/2008 10:02:33 AM	Ignore cbpilot Report Abuse
	There is no oil shortage. It's all a hoax, and we are all being taken for a ride.
miatabill Champion Author St. Louis Posts:1,713 Points:139,985 Joined:Mar 2003	Message Posted: 5/14/2008 10:01:59 AM	Ignore miatabill Report Abuse
	That's right. Everyone jump on the bandwagon.
racingsuperb Rookie Author North Carolina Posts:7 Points:1,565 Joined:May 2008	Message Posted: 5/14/2008 10:00:29 AM	Ignore racingsuperb Report Abuse
	At this rate it will be cheaper to stay home than goto work!
kwilson08 Rookie Author Indianapolis Posts:47 Points:2,705 Joined:Apr 2008	Message Posted: 5/14/2008 9:59:27 AM	Ignore kwilson08 Report Abuse
	how's that saying go??? crap rolls downhill...

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