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The coming battle over natural gas

Financial Post -- From co-dependent natural gas consumers and developers, Canada and the United States may soon be competing with each other as both countries start advancing their production plans for liquefied natural gas (LNG).

“I think there is a sense of competition at the moment between the U.S. and Canada for the [Asian] market,” said Noel Tomnay, head of global gas at Wood Mackenzie, an energy research and consulting firm.

Rising natural gas production on both sides of the border, coupled with benchmark Henry Hub prices tracking 31-year lows, are forcing North American producers to find growing markets willing to pay more.

“Currently, the U.S. is clearly advantaged because it has the existing infrastructure,” Mr. Tomnay said.


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honda0105
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Saving, and have a lot more earthquakes, right? There's always something that we didn't expect.
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We need to go natural
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honda0105
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Message Posted: Apr 11, 2012 5:57:50 AM

of course, it would help even more if ppl were to waste less over all.
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Message Posted: Apr 10, 2012 6:05:43 AM

what would help more is a move toward more use of natural gas in home heating / water heating, etc. as there is a lot of waste of oil and electricity (from oil and coal).
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honda0105
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Message Posted: Apr 10, 2012 6:04:33 AM

Gaseye: lots of fleet vehicles area already moving to NG.
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Message Posted: Apr 7, 2012 11:19:06 AM

Go natural
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Message Posted: Apr 7, 2012 10:37:38 AM

With so much natural gas in both countries, it is a shame that it is not used more for transportation. The US only has a little over 100,0000 cars and trucks fuel by natural gas, which is about 1% of the world fleet of 12.8 million. In a lot of countries, regular gasoline cars are being converted to bi-fuel CNG/gasoline car for as little as $1,500. With close to $2.00 a gallon savings, the conversion can be a no brainer.

The US needs to find ways to make it cheaper to convert gasolne cars to bi-fuel cars. Thew current price is at least $6,000 making it a lot more difficult to justify.
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Message Posted: Apr 7, 2012 7:18:01 AM

Ok
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Message Posted: Apr 7, 2012 2:31:59 AM

More LNG Public vehicles should be utilizing this on the roads.
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Message Posted: Apr 7, 2012 12:32:05 AM

Competition is good.
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Bring it on.
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Message Posted: Apr 7, 2012 12:26:38 AM

Yesterdays article.
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Message Posted: Apr 7, 2012 12:20:03 AM

Thats great. But will it ever be used to power passenger vehicles ?
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we need to use more natural gas
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Message Posted: Apr 6, 2012 11:48:48 PM

really no suprise there.
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WE SHALL SEE HOW BIG THE BATTLE GETS!
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They will sell overseas and cause prices here to go up,,,,
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Message Posted: Apr 6, 2012 10:48:16 PM

It doesn't matter. Gas prices still to high.
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Message Posted: Apr 6, 2012 10:48:07 PM

There must be a way to work this out before it explodes in both countries
faces!!!
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Message Posted: Apr 6, 2012 10:45:51 PM

Exporting makes more sense than burning it off as waste, which is the current policy at many oil fields and refineries. Competition with Canada will at least be civilized and should help keep prices down for domestic customers.
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Message Posted: Apr 6, 2012 10:43:31 PM

Competition is a good thing, monopoly's are bad.
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wow
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ok
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Message Posted: Apr 6, 2012 10:37:19 PM

sure CNG is well worth.. it is very populer in south asia
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Build the pipeline
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Message Posted: Apr 6, 2012 10:34:45 PM

sometimes more competition is good.
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The government will get involved and spoil everything
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Message Posted: Apr 6, 2012 10:28:47 PM

we need more CNG cars + infrastructure to take advantage of it
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ok
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Message Posted: Apr 6, 2012 10:23:49 PM

“So ironically, the U.S. politicians may argue about ths issue but if they don’t take advantage, Canada will, and gas prices will still go up. For the U.S., it’s a case of use it or lose it.”

And DC is playing circle jerk with Solar and wind...
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Message Posted: Apr 6, 2012 10:20:50 PM

ok.
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Message Posted: Apr 6, 2012 10:19:26 PM

While natural gas is still cheap the US should build the equivalent of the Strategic Petroleum Reserve to stockpile some.
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Message Posted: Apr 6, 2012 10:11:07 PM

cheap today ... price it for export at the real costs and leave it for us at a lower affordability price domestically.
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Ok
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Pump prices will not come down because of GREED, Wall Street and speculation.....
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Ok.
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VERY, VERY GOOD...
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Competition is, hopefully, good.
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Time to get a diesil that can run on nat gas
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good for consumers
but for how long?
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Competition is good.
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Message Posted: Apr 6, 2012 9:52:33 PM

I think a little competition is good for both countries. It will keep the price of LNG down.
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Message Posted: Apr 6, 2012 9:47:46 PM

But regardless of the U.S. decision on LNG exports, gas prices will go up as export avenues open up."

This is what I have been saying for a long time now, but I don't think the American public see the writing on the wall. There is a world market for oil and any liquid form of energy! Liquid Natural Gas (LNG) is very desirable for shipment to the Asian market. Japan and other countries have been buying it for some time now paying prices triple what they get for it in the USA. Cheniere has applied for and received a permit to export LNG from the Gulf to foreign markets. Others are jumping at the chance to export our natural resources also. I feel that will be the end of our cheap natural gas for heating homes as well as for transportation which hasn't caught on yet. I feel about the time we can switch to natural gas for cars, it will no longer be $1.19 a gallon but $6 or more. We play by the rule which is bend over, and big oil has one, greed!
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I'm ready to rumble.
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Message Posted: Apr 6, 2012 9:42:47 PM

Wait till more velchies use natural gas and the the price will soar,like everything else.
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